Couple of things..
We dont have large bomber formations in the game nor do we have 6 human gunners in each buff. Pilot does it all..
and as pointed out to you in the game, when you are killed by a buffs otto it will say so in the buffer.
When you are killed by the pilot/gunner it will say so in the buffer.
You complained about otto not being as good in the war footage as it is in game..
I told you it was me that blew you out of the sky not otto yet you proceeded to complain about otto, eventually coming in here to complain..
Theres an adage we have about buff tuff and otto in here over the years..
Simply,
When fighters complain about buff tuff or otto being set too high and bomber pilots complain about buff tuff or otto being set too low,
Its set just right..
Learn to die with grace..

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^^^^ The Truth.

Word!




(Bomber pukes!)

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quite typical this has to get toxic right on. Nothing in the start post that i can understand as a complaint. Interresting footage, thx there. "the truth", good point its called "prawda" in russian. Better watch out when there is "one truth".

I can get footage of gun cams that show P-51's and P-47's taking a wing off 109's and 190's, but that doesn't make it the truth. Strange I don't see any bombing runs with fighter/bombers or bombers flipping left, right, upside down, pulling positive/negative g's of an almost fuel empty aircraft, etc., but that's real life right?

Neither can I, but the level of welcome and "complainbility' depends also on writers nick; some are often taken as complainers, even if writing "Horrido". Of course, if there's been verbal clash already in buffer before this, it may change the judgment. Just may change, not has to change, anyway.

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If one would read the second post (pakrat) you would see that OP mirlox carried an in game situation/text buffer chat here, apparently trying to justify his stance.

Pakrat stated in this thread "I told you it was me that blew you out of the sky not otto yet you proceeded to complain about otto, eventually coming in here to complain.."

Regardless, mirlox is the one that took this over the edge with his reply:

"Pakrat, or whatever you want to call yourself.
1) This is not about you, you know the world is not revolving about you. You really have a very high concept about yourself, just saying."

I'm not saying that in game otto settings are set for the same apparent accuracy of real gunners in the war. They are probably set to try to simulate the overall interaction/outcome between the two aircraft. Which means some will never be happy.

Civility is virtuous
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A rare virtue around here, for sure, splt.

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Not to prolong this silliness but just to clarify.
Was flying a B24j and had already shot down a few intruders when ***lox made a lousy pass on me and I blew him up gunning from the tail. Buffer says "Kill by Pakrat.."
As he does any time he gets killed he came on 100 and began complaining that otto was never that good in real war footage and proceeded to post a link to a youtube video that supposedly proves his point.
I typed in that it wasnt otto but me that shot him down.. he maintained it wasnt historical and still didnt get it.
In another historical moment, he replaned and was back on me in a few minutes..This time he added the last shots needed to re-kit the bomber and that was that..
Until I saw he had come here and transferred his complaining about otto being overly tough even though he had been told it wasnt otto..
he likes to blame all kinds of things for his deaths, like its not supposed to ever happen and if it does, there must be a supernatural cause.. never does he ever say 'well done, or nice fight, or good kill" etc. Its always a fluke or as he likes to do accuse you of cheating somehow.. and on and on.. Just get a little sick of it after awhile..
So that was the deal..Sorry if it seemed trivial, but its annoying and needed him to knock it off and just fly and die like everyone else..
Oh yeah, BTW,
'There were no "Real Ottos" in a B24 so I;m not even sure what the hell he was referring to and neither is he apparently...

Over n out..

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You just did that...and why not? Isn't this the "How tough is puberty in Alaska" forum?
I am here to help <S>