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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:35 pm 
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I don't think classic mode works well with the newer terrains. I heard all these arguments about Prime and decided to try it online on a map that could use it.
Except for less haze on the horizon, and better visibility of some ground vehicles, I really didn't see any advantage.
I've flown with Prime and against him, and we've always gotten along very well. If he's on my side, and I want to find a fight I just go where he is- because he'll fight somewhere, no matter what the odds are against him. Maybe that's why (like Juice) he can be deadly in a crowded furball! Anyway, I really enjoy fighting with or against Prime and I am 100% confident that he is no cheater.
What he does, others can learn: GREAT SA, superb energy management, and accurate and effective ACM and gunnery.
I do think that connection quality does affect the game. I've also found that when your computer gets too busy in the background- even when you THINK nothing is running in the background, you can start to get weird stuff happening. Uncommanded joystick motion- espeically on the rolling plane, freeze frames (mine used to freeze exactly every 6 seconds for 1 second) and all sorts of warping issues.
As well, background crap, combined with a connect issues (like dropped packets) can combine to make you LOSE your hits on the other players. It's hard to quantify it on a player versus player basis, but I think a lot of things that get labeled as "cheating" are really artifacts of the background and net issues I've described. A clean install of warbirds on a CLEAN install of windows makes a huge difference. I did that, and got rid of a lot of programs and Apps I didn't need, and WOW! what a difference. UNfortunaely, I have no idea how to fix the net issues.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:59 pm 
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theres something wrong in you post swanee...been playing warbirds since 2001 and like the most of the player in new
game I was fresh meat for everyone. so with the time I just learn the limits in every single plane even the way how
the other players maneuver so one did you know whos in the other side (waching in the type of plane (maneuvers0
you know how to fight in the smart mode.Sometimes getting killed for the same player cause frustration.
btw my hit ratio kills for sortie improving with the time.... not just for one year!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:12 am 
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BTW in the video Mirlox link...everyone notice I don't look to match the crosshair with the enemy plane....I just aim for a bit
in front ….so the enemy just meet my burts.
when I was rockie wondering just why not hits on enemy my crosshair just in the plane :)-


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:56 pm 
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I never questioned your ability, or combat maneuvering skills. in fact I stated you are very good at that. My problem is the invulnerability. Not taking as much damage as you should. At least from my FE.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:24 pm 
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I have read through this thread and wonder why the frustrations are directed at Prime, versus the white elephant, old-code network connectivity?

Ive flown with and against Viva Zapata for some many years now and rarely seen anything that would lead me to think he's manipulating the game code for advantage. Further, the guy has learned English to communicate better with his squaddies. I know 10 Japanese words to talk with Kazy and Zank, and my old brain does not have the plasticity to retain what I learn, anymore.

So while all the anecdotes do point towards something...they eschew from what I think is the real reason for anomalies...old code.

Ni ¥.


P.S. - I respect and enjoy flying with and against everyone in this thread...and am just weary with coming back to the game we all love and seeing yet another 'bashing' thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:35 pm 
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if seen cheating in WB 2.xx quite a bit, namely the "phone cheat", and others. After that I have'nt seen any of it. Amazes me how many frequent players keep noting "something wrong" or "no way this could work", suggesting a cheat code or alike. There is none. I would use it, if there was :-)
Using a low resolution version does'nt give an advantage, as far as I know. Prime is a pain in the sky, he really is, for a reason : SKILL!
Get over with.


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I remember my first time being told I was cheating! I thought that it was a great accomplishment! I finally reached a level of skill that warranted someones admiration with no other explanation than I had to be cheating to get the drop on them! It was one of the best days of my flying career. The best part was that I really was not that good! It made me laugh and still does.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:48 am 
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+CHUNK, I shot down a barrage balloon in the Blitz Terrain. Will someone tell me I was cheating, please?

I was flying my WIP skin, "Yellow 15" of Kurt Wolff.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:18 pm 
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I think a lot of these cheating allegations would go out the window if IEN would lower the acceptable lag on a connection. As I understand it, and god knows I've been wrong before, the game currently allows players in with lag of up to 6 or 7 seconds. Even the soi-disant 'smoothing code' can't cope with that.
Lag and lost packets mean that what you see isn't necessarily what the other guy saw, or did.
The other night in my view, Prime shot me from below and beside me going in the opposite direction. In his view, it was a dandy deflection/T-bone shot.
My only comment (to him privately) was "our lag is a bugger tonight". I know damn' well Prime isn't a cheat. He's a good guy, period.
We'll always have lag as long as our com to the game is limited by the speed of light and slowed by a multitude or routers enroute. But reducing the acceptable lag might help reduce the worst effects of it.
Finn
(another thought- we could have an alternate arena for players with excessive lag, and keep our legacy play arena at a lower allowable lag limit.)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:51 pm 
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Jitter is most likely the cause, esp. if your ping is low (30-50). Any ping over 100 isn't good for gaming. WIFI connects are a whole different ballgame. Anyone using WIFI ... well I better not say it. ;)


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