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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:20 am 
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I am really struggling after updating WBs.

Surface controls are extremely sluggish (see video 190D). Rapid movement on the joystick produce very slow moves on the corresponding control surfaces, the rudder and elevator are incredible slow, almost ridiculous for a fighter where the surface controls were directly linked to stick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LMLXvKQ3H0

In contrast, the same surface controls in 190D on Warthunder, please see how responsive the surface controls are, as they should be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbfWZk7Ff1o

Any suggestion?

Deadband and dampen values are set to 0% in all the controls.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:12 pm 
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Here's the how the 190 should fly right?



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:28 pm 
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Ok, you are saying a complete move of rudder.vaor should take 2-3 seconds. And that 190Ds we fly in WBs uses stabilizing fly-by-wire software?

I bet this 190D did not have those control issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjS1eggipm8&t=10s


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:48 pm 
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Hmm, I've now tested the Fw 190 of today vs a few updates back. The controls seem to be moving at exactly the same rate as before, so couldn't spot any change. I also tested several other flightmodels and all planes have the rudder move at a similar speed. As such it doesn't seem to be Fw 190 specific. I would guess the control surface movement speeds were decided a very long time ago, having a little bit of sluggishness in order for the planes to not be to jerky in the controls.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:25 am 
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Are you flying in ez mode perhaps?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:30 am 
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mirlox wrote:
Ok, you are saying a complete move of rudder.vaor should take 2-3 seconds. And that 190Ds we fly in WBs uses stabilizing fly-by-wire software?

I bet this 190D did not have those control issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjS1eggipm8&t=10s


In real life, controls become heavier with speed and as they become so, they're travel is both more limited and slower.
What speeds are you flying at? Every airplane has a sweet spot. That said, the part that puzzles me is that you notice it after an update, which implies it was not an issue before. I wonder if something changed in your stick setup with the update? I know several times after an update, the game 'forgot' my settings and left with a default setting for stick sensitivity. One of the many things I learned from Juice is to set all my controls to 100% from zero deflection to full deflection. That requires a lighter touch- which I think you have- and if those stick sets are back to default everything will feel wonky in the way I think you are describing.
Other than that, I have no clue at all. Good puzzle.


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