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Author: | Robert [ Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Spitfire XIVe only at rear LAF's |
<S> all! In order to improve the game balance the Spitfire XIVe is now only available at one rear LAF airfield per side. In the current Tunisia map these fields are F10 and F24. While the Spit XIVe is modeled quite close to historical performance, this fighter is simply somewhat of a game balance issue since it features a low wingloading, fairly low weight, great wing efficiency and a monster inline engine rated at 2200 hp with 150 grade fuel (Compare this to the heavier P-51D's max output of 1810 hp with 150 grade fuel). This allows it to outturn and outclimb all other late war fighters while also having a similar or better top speed. Hopefully this field limit fix for the Spit XIVe should make it more attractive to fly the other late war fighters as the match-ups should be more balanced when not 2/3 of all pilots are flying a Spit XIV. The Spitfire LF IXe is of course still available at all fields and one can always bring a Spit XIV to the fight if one doesn't mind to fly from the rear LAF field to the combat area. Also as a result the side with their "backs against the wall" will slightly benefit from this fix since they'll have closer access of the Spit XIV to the frontline than the side in possession of a majority of the map. <S> and all feedback is welcome! /Robert |
Author: | Finn [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spitfire XIVe only at rear LAF's |
What about the f4u4? Or the other fast, climb like monkeys aircraft? The spit 14 in wb has very little wep- a choice only between 18 lbs and 21 lbs rather than from 9lbs to 25 lbs of boost and can't catch an F4u4 or a FW190 Dora at low alt. I'd say the F4u4, which carries a lot more ammo, a much heavier ordnance load and has very late war performance is more of a game un-balancer than the Spit 14. I've seen players close a medium airfield with a single f4u4. Can't do that with a spit 14. . The spit 14 is the only airplane that has a chance to answer that kind of assault on a field. Move ALL the late war planes to rear fields, or move none of them. Here's an unrelated question: why can a bomber put out an engine fire at about 250-300mph in a dive, while the same engine in a fighter needs over 400 mph to extinguish a fire? finn |
Author: | grumpy [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spitfire XIVe only at rear LAF's |
My guess is most bombers had fire suppression systems and fighters didn't. |
Author: | Finn [ Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spitfire XIVe only at rear LAF's |
Then why do bombers need to dive at all? I don't think fire suppression systems are modelled. If this is a way of 'simulating' them, I suppose I can understand it. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. Moving the spits to a single rear base in the current terrain is just utter bogus BS tho'. The spit 14 is not an easy ride to master. It's a terrible gunnery platform and requires great discipline and light touch to manuever effectively in a dogfight. The F4u4 on the other hand, is an order of magnitude easier to fly, carries a LOT of bombs and rockets and climbs with and outruns the Spitfire. Are you sure you haven't relegated the wrong damn plane to the rear fields? finn |
Author: | Pakrat [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spitfire XIVe only at rear LAF's |
Jeesh guys. After waiting 20 years for the FM revision of the Spit 14 to where it actually is flyable again we cant even fly it when wanted now? What happened to the RPS? That would at least make it available when it should be.. Gotta be a better solution.. |
Author: | grumpy [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spitfire XIVe only at rear LAF's |
With 20-25 people left in the main there is no one driving the bus. Stupid gameplay has driven all the sim people away. The gamers are about to shove the knife the rest of way into the Sim. ![]() |
Author: | Finn [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spitfire XIVe only at rear LAF's |
Clearly the relegation of the Spit 14 to useless deployment areas (Reds have been largely without the spit14 since it's only available from one field, and that one is always captured early by the greens) is driven by somebody's agenda. I say again, the F4u4 has a far greater influence on game playt than the spitfire. It's ammo load is heavier, and consistent to the last shot, while the spitfire's cannon vary from useless to adequate from day to day, and once they're done, the spit is basically out of guns. Again, the corsair can close a field by itself. The spit can't. I have flown the f4u4 a lot- more than the spit 14 certainly, and I still find it an easier ride to take to the edge and shoot from than the Spitty. The spitty is extremely hard to shoot from in a turn as it's very twitchy on the controls and far more likely to red and black out if mishandled than is the corsair. So whose agenda is this? It's clearly not, as I believe I have shown because the spit 14 actually unbalances the arena. Few people are skilled enough to get the most out of any of the airplanes, and the spit 14 is not an easy plane to fly well. The spit V and IX are both better in a turn fight. I had a five kill sortie in a Spit V the other night, and I've never done that in a spit 14. What the 14 IS really good for is getting to alt fast to defend a field, and that's about it. So Whose agenda is IEN really following here? There is NO reason to limit the Spit to rear fields other than due to the whining of players who don't like it interrupting their vulching and jaboing. This is just about the last straw for me. I have a competing sim loaded on the computer, and after 20 plus years in WB, I'm just about ready to leave it for the other game. |
Author: | mSpiro [ Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Spitfire XIVe only at rear LAF's |
Good post Robert <S> I tend to fly much weaker planes, but I usually don't worry too much about any F4U. If he has the energy advantage, then like any other plane, I've got problems. If I have it, then I can work it. Against the 14, not much I can do unless the pilot is relatively inexperienced. The raw power gives it pretty much carte blanche. |
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