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Author: | fencer [ Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Update FL2055: Rule Britannia |
Are the German, Japanese and Italian planes modeled with 87 octane fuel? Only the Western Allies had a steady supply of 100+ octane aviation fuel. Great Britain started getting 100 octane fuel in early 1940, before the BoB. The US sent over 5 million gallons of 100 octane fuel to the Soviet Union which they used in their front line aircraft. From 1943-45 the Germans cut their 87 octane fuel with kerosene so they could stretch their limited fuel supply a little farther. This reduced the octane level to about 84 octane. Fencer |
Author: | bollok [ Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Update FL2055: Rule Britannia |
That's a bit of a funny question. You model the performance and power / restrictions of the engine at given conditions for a typical example in service. An additional version of the Spit 1 and Hurri 1 now exist without the +12lbs option (only possible with 100 grade fuel). Understand these have been created for S3 event use, not for mainstream play. |
Author: | grumpy [ Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Update FL2055: Rule Britannia |
German Fuels. If you're interested. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lxAq0 ... ITAywhkyXR |
Author: | Robert [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Update FL2055: Rule Britannia |
Yep what Bollok said. All new flightmodels have been modeled to perform according to the typical performance they had in ww2, which was of course influenced by the fuel they used in real life. Btw the first post has now been updated with illustrative performance diagrams. Cheers! /Robert |
Author: | -tmoa- [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Update FL2055: Rule Britannia |
Updated my Mac version today and Warbirds won't even start now. ![]() I get this popup message if I try: ![]() Thanks to Time Machine, I was able to return to Warbirds prior to the update and it works. If this update is necessary for the upcoming S3, I guess I'm out until iENT corrects this issue. ![]() (Running MacOS Sierra 10.12.6) <S> Nick |
Author: | bollok [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Update FL2055: Rule Britannia |
I believe IENT are still in process of compiling all the various updaters to be honest... so you may have got an incomplete update. (or something like that) |
Author: | bollok [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Update FL2055: Rule Britannia |
I heard somebody mentioning something about Spitfire Mk Vc and negative G cut-out. 1941 Miss Shilling comes up with the diaphragm as a partial fix to the problem. 1942 An anti-g version of the SU carburetor was developed from this and fitted to both single and two-stage Merlins. 1943 The Merlin 66 engine as fitted to the Spit IXe was the first to get the Bendix Stromburg "injected" carbs. |
Author: | Pakrat [ Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Update FL2055: Rule Britannia |
Robert. Could you please post the changes to the Spit XIVe from the last one to the current one? What was changed? It seems to be a lot slower (on acceleration using stage 1 even though the boost level is the same) and does not climb as fast or handle as nimbly as before..Plus the torque pull to the right on takeoff seems to have been reduced.. reduction of power or just torque? New paintjob is nice.. Did the engine sound change too? The above descriptions of the FM';s is nice but it doesnt say much about what was changed from the previous models.. So its a bit of a surprise when you go into a fight and then find its not the same plane you have been using for weeks.... Last night I was fighting an f4u and usually can dispose of them, but now with the new update it out-turned and out performed the XIV which has rarely happened before.. Not a big deal but it does require one to now relearn each plane and how it stacks up against the others now.. Thanks in advance.. PS Noticing the canopy is missing from the artwork. Windshield there but no bubble canopy.. FYI.. |
Author: | bollok [ Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Update FL2055: Rule Britannia |
I can probably answer that (mostly...) Spitfire XIV Brand new FM was built to the new standard New default and PPV skins created IN GENERAL What you are seeing is the NEW flightmodels Vs old ones left over from Dobs & Dawger latest tweakings New flight models are built to match the known performance specs of the plane The engines are modelled carefully to produce the correct powers and performance. Probably MOST significant is the revised wing profiles and maximum AOA (angle of attack) going into the new FMs. When I say profile I mean the lift / drag profile. / polar When I say AOA I mean the amount you can pitch the plane versus the direction of travel (your vector) Most WW2 planes had a max (stalling) AOA of about 16 degrees +/- Based on the actual airfoil data and L/D polar plots, these have now been far more correctly modelled. Revised and matching wing profiles mean that when the max AOA is exceeded now, you will start to stall. You will probably notice this most in an accelerated snap stall. OLD warbirds models have very generous AOA in most cases. On top of that many have AOA that does NOT match the assigned wing profile.... meaning that they simply don't stall when they are supposed to Example. If you fly along at 4000ft now and split S, the chances of pulling out before hitting the ground (or stalling) are FAR more reduced and realistic with the new fms There will be some mismatch / disparity until all the planes are revised to the new standard. obvious mismatches are the previous incarnation of the Spit 14 and also with the F4U-4. Robert has been very diligent producing nice comparison performance graphs for public consumption. Don't forget that in a 60 degree banked turn your stall speed is increased by 40% As one of my well known and wise compatriots says "power can solve many things.." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JWgmv92fQk One of the reasons the Spitfire XIV was "comparable" to the Spitfire IX in terms of turning was due to the extra engine power it had. The extra engine power available makes up with pure brute force any aero losses due to extra weight, COG etc. etc. It was a little bit heavier on the controls due to the 36 ltr griffon sticking out the extended nose vs the 27 ltr Merlin 66 Plus it span up the other way which probably put some long time spit pilots off. The Spitfire XIV was built to be an interceptor and was pressed immediately into service first of all chasing down buzz bombs. Spit IX is generally deemed to be the ultimate fighter version and sweeter handling plane. Actually the Spitfire VII/VIII to be honest but these all went to Far East. Best advice I can give you in the new planes is fly to the AOA and watch your G in turns. ![]() One of my favorite clips of the Spitfire XIV comes from an old French Doc. Sir Stephen Grey of the fighter collection spanking his own plane about not long after he acquired it.. Still displays now at home base Duxford, though the display pilots he lets fly it are a bit more restrained lets say... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1COvJbsrDvQ enjoy,.. |
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