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 Post subject: Film: Dunkirk
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:46 pm 
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Chris Nolan's recent film "Dunkirk" is a pretty good watch. The flying sequences are quite intense. For filming they apparently managed to wedge a full iMax camera into a Spit cockpit.

Although I did think the Spitfire doing the engine-out-of-gas glide along the beach, with full flaps, and then proceeding to shoot down a diving Stuka was a bit too much over-acting by Tom Hardy.

But all in all worth a look.


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 Post subject: Re: Film: Dunkirk
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:17 pm 
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I was impressed with the sound mixing for the scenes inside the cockpit of the Spit. Nolan put in all the creeks and groans a bird goes through when maneuvering.
Overall I liked the movie. Minimalistic dialogue, yet the story still comes through from the action sequences. Great cinematography. 75mm makes a difference for sure.
Have to agree with the last part of the dead stick spit retaining e for what seems forever. Hmmm... now that I think about it... I have seen that by some in a particular flight sim ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Film: Dunkirk
PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:48 am 
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My inner suppressed Luftwaffe was aching in pain at the Buchon.

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 Post subject: Re: Film: Dunkirk
PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:08 am 
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AG what ? Does that still exist... lol.

I think in reality this movie is probably best viewed in an IMAX theatre for the best experience.

There are some things which are niggling annoyances to the diehard but done for general consumption.

Such as, when Hardy's wingman decides to ditch instead of bailing out, he closes the canopy again before ditching.
Not something you would want to do in case it bends / jams upon ditching and you never get it open again.

Also, the 109 yellow noses.. didn't feature until Dunkirk when the boys were based at Abbeville but of course makes easier for the cinema goer to identity the enemy.

What you really have to get firmly stuck in your mind is the timeline / overlap of events.

There are 3 perspectives represented - from Land, Sea and Air.

The events happening on the beaches in the film takes place over a period of 1 whole week.
The events at sea (little ships) takes place over a period of 1 day.
The events in the air takes place over a period of 1 hour.


So imagine being literally stuck on the beach for a week awaiting rescue being bombed by Stukas
After 6 days the little ships set off from Southern UK ports to Dunkirk for a rescue attempt (a few hours sail away)
When the little ships are about 1 hour out from Dunkirk is the time the spitfires appear overhead to cover them.

IMO, Hardy didn't need to be in this movie and is almost distracting. It would have been better to have a 20-25 year old relatively unknown actor (such as his wingman)

Because the movie is episodic in the way it is edited, it SEEMS like the spitfire glides around for ever....

But some really touching moments.

Anyway, now you have a new movie to watch every time before you start on the "Battle of Britain" :)


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 Post subject: Re: Film: Dunkirk
PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:40 pm 
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What no flying on one wing, that's not real, LOL.


The trailers looked pretty good.


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 Post subject: Re: Film: Dunkirk
PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:55 pm 
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bollok wrote:
There are some things which are niggling annoyances to the diehard but done for general consumption.


Yep, kinda like Titanic where they had the wrong constellations in the sky for the date/time it sank. (Believe that got corrected in a later cut...)

A big enough star like Tom Hardy was needed to get financing. Dunkirk is very much a British story but Nolan needed a Hollywood budget for what he had in mind so a bankable actor required. Had to know it was Hardy - practically impossible to tell otherwise.

BoB. A classic.

Another classic - Jet Pilot. Terrible story, a few seconds of nice flying. Especially the bit about 34 secs when the F86 swaps formation wingtip with a roll over the top. Chuck Yeager did most of the stunt flying.


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 Post subject: Re: Film: Dunkirk
PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:55 am 
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Entertaining... Fairly close to accurate.

1. Most were saved by Big ships. Small vessels were used to transport men to big ships. Only around 6,000 men made the trip in small boats.
2. The French lost around 100,000 men fighting , to give time for the evacuation. Not really Shown in movie at all.
3. The yellow nose paint was not on planes at that time.
4. Hitler ordered the attack stopped...Some say low supplies. Other say he was following Orders from The Powers That Be! (Banksters & NWO), Old Man Bush..Father & Grandfather to our two Presidents?
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