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 Post subject: Peer program
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:43 am 
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Gentlemen <S>

I suggest to nominate peers to support and enhance the code of conduct (in terms of gaming and nettiquette).

For instance, a peer should:
*report to a CM directly
*be able to remind other gamers to adhere to the code of conduct they have agreed to
*in severe cases, be able to inhibit abusing gamers for a limited time, like 10 minutes, from goin in "flight".

Due to certain devellopments in the main arean I see an urgent need for it. BTW: I DO NOT APPLY FOR IT!

I've been called a coward, having no honour, being a nazi on more than one occasion by a certain lobby of gamers. I get along with it quite well, even though the nazi thing hurts me, it is a criminal offence in the country where I live. To witness this on 100 as a returning or new player must be nothing else than disgusting. I have reported with screenshots to ien, just in case u ask. And this thread is NOT about to bash on people with bad manners.

Your opinions please (on the peer thing).
Regards greenx


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 Post subject: Re: Peer program
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:29 pm 
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Once upon a time tried policing the arena with disastrous results.
There is no " conduct" policy per se except for some vaguely worded stuff you can look at in the help or somewhere like that.
Funny thing is, both sides each think the "other" side is the guilty party and after long observation, both sides are guilty of much of the exact same thing...generally speaking with some personal exceptions of course...much of the time pot is calling kettle black type of thing, but what it really points out is the fact that the arena has devolved into "us" and "them" instead of people flying both sides on whatever night, is the lack of community spirit that usually develops tweenst players who have both flown "with" each other and "against" each other...being able to do so builds a more personal relationship ( or can) and takes much of the animosity away between two color groups.
This caustic "atmosphere" is (IMHO) one of the great stumbling blocks that certainly doesn't help WB grow....but both sides insist on hating each other and creating their own personal villains to blame the woes of the world upon. When you don't "know" someone, its much easier to hate them.
But its something only the community itself can police, certainly not a "policeman"
I understand where you are coming from however and the perceived "need"
Its very difficult to legislate "morals"...take a look at society itself......nuff said
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 Post subject: Re: Peer program
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:31 am 
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Excuse me, there is a conduct policy, its part of everyones WB account, found in TERMS AND CONDITIONS:

"...You may not, under any circumstances, do any of the following: (a) publish, post, distribute or disseminate defamatory, infringing, obscene or other unlawful material or information via iEN; (b) use iEN to threaten, harass, stalk, abuse, or otherwise violate the legal rights (including rights of privacy and publicity) of others; ..."

I did'nt suggest to establish a police, but a peer structure. Many of us work in companies which use this concept with good success. It can be put in place with no costs for IEN.

What is a peer anyway? A typical peer is an experianced colleague, not a boss. He is woven in with the other members the group he is active in, at an eyeheight level. If a peer has certain powers, these powers should only be used (and usable) to HELP or GUARD, not to OVERPOWER or be a tool in a power struggle. Therefor it should be discussed which powers that could be.

The WB community needs to get along WITHOUT Comunity Managers most of the time, because, simply, sleepy has a live and cant be online 24/7. But there are many experianced people around that would cover most of the time.

I've put this on the forum to find out what the comunity thinks about it. Maybe there is no need at all for anyone.


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 Post subject: Re: Peer program
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:16 am 
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I don't tune channel 100 so I see very little.

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 Post subject: Re: Peer program
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:15 pm 
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WarBirds is one of the better communities out there. If you follow game development you will see over and over again devs struggling to contain, control and channel their player base. Great games have been simply ruined by a toxic community. I think it is a very misunderstood and haphazard aspect of game development. It really effects the gameplay that all that great programming has built. Games that have great freedom, like sandbox games or MMO/MMOPGs have the greatest problems. But simple strategy games like Cybernations have lots of problems too. It doesnt matter if they are free or P2W or monthly fee, they all have community issues and problems. The good combat sim ones I see start out simple with limited options. One arena, sides divided as they see fit, etc. They then expand and monitor changes as they evolve. The devs drive the game. Build a good game and they will come. Maintain a good game and they will stay. Evolve a good game and you will continue to get new players. Of course some will get mad at you and leave, some will bitch and stay but the core should show up and love your game.


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 Post subject: Re: Peer program
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:49 pm 
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Good points Jabo....and an opinion (for myself) I havn't quite given up on. Keep throwing @*#$& agin the wall and see what sticks. Its obvious we need to evolve into something else.....the Kharkov event was an experiment with a different game dev, and the Korean thing spindz and myself working another step that direction.....will it work? ( shrugs) who knows....but gotta try....good news that you feel like we do have a "better" community...always felt like we ( on the whole) got some pretty decent folk hanging out still


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 Post subject: Re: Peer program
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:01 am 
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from today, 30 mins ago. jabo, i would love to see you more often in the "legacy gameplay", the atmosphere is suffering maybe more than in the S3, where people are under supervision, more or less.
.ignore is an individual option, same as not tuning channel 100. Do we want to ignore abusive behaviour? Do we not, by ignoring, approve ?


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